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STEVE YASTROW's avatar

I listened to the interview, and recommend everyone who reads you article to the same. Here's my take:

There is no doubt that Peter Beinart doesn't care about Israelis –based on his body of work and definitely reinforced by this conversation. He not only is unwilling to focus on the lives and needs of Israelis, he doesn’t seem to register at all the threats of annihilation that Israelis have been living under for decades. Israeli defense doesn't even seem to occupy one neuron in his brain.

And I would also say that he has a strange, caricatured perspective on Palestinians and other Arabs. To him they are a homogenous, indistinguishable group of people, without agency, responsibility or accountability.

Since his entire worldview is ahistorical, never digging beyond the superficial level of issues, this leaves him with some pretty hollow reasoning. He is unwilling to recognize/distinguish the situation of Arab/Palestinian Israelis from those in the West Bank. Not only is the situation different between those two populations, one has shown itself willing to live in peace with Israel and the other has demonstrated, sadly far too many times, that they are not willing to live in peace next to Israel, turning down multiple offers of peace and statehood, and often resorting to terrorism as a way to advance their cause. Beinart ignores this – He, you and I would all like to see the military occupation end, but he (like so many people) see this just as an issue of Israeli discretion, discounting the obvious dangers of leaving in a way that leads to Gaza x 50.

Same with the right of return – yes, it is painful, but he ignores the real threats to Israelis if that were to happen, and this is where his ahistorical nature really comes into play: Beyond acknowledging the way every other refugee crisis since WWII has been solved, he completely ignores that this problem of Palestinian displacement would not have happened if they had accepted the 1947 UN Partition Plan and if five Arab armies had not attacked Israel as soon as it was born, with the goal of destroying the country and killing all of its inhabitants. Aggressive, discretionary war has its costs. I feel tons of empathy for those Arabs who displaced, as I do for all other populations who were displaced in the middle of the last century. But there is a lot of historical context, and real-life threats, that Beinart ignores.

Israeli has much agency, and much to answer for, in this situation. But this pattern of ignoring Palestinian/Arab agency, responsibility and accountability, which leads to all blame falling to Israel, is a non-starter for any progress. Does Beinart even know about the multiple peace/statehood offers the Palestinians (or the Arabs on their behalf) have turned down? We’ve seen how this lopsided approach has empowered Israel’s jihadist enemies since October 7, making peace harder to achieve. Which is why this refusal to acknowledge Palestinians agency is bad for them ... it motivates them to continue avoiding peace, which hardens Israeli fear and resolve, leading to a negative, self-reinforcing cycle.

One other inaccurate point from Beinart: He talked about how unfair it is that the Jewish National Fund administers so much of the funding that goes into managing certain land and infrastructure projects, because that supposedly benefits one ethnic group, the Jews. JNF’s mission is focused on the peripheries of Israel, focused on the north and the south of the country, and much of their work benefits Arab communities. Many of the areas where they work and create positive impact in the north are majority Arab. Just one more example of Peter Beinart’s false sense of certainty, his dangerous naivete, and why nobody should listen to him.

Jacques Engelstein's avatar

The problem with post-Zionist fantasies such as Beinart’s is not only that they ask Israeli Jews to self-dissolve in a region where armed conflict is inevitable.

More deeply: once that conflict begins, where exactly is the political will to save Jews supposed to come from?

From international actors who do not believe Israel has a right to exist? From movements that treat Israel itself as the original sin? From institutions that see Israeli Jews not as a legitimate people, but as a colonial problem to be eliminated?

They are asking Jews to give up the only protection they actually have, and then depend on the very same world that has already decided their protection is illegitimate.

It is suicide.

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